Groene Family Supports Dylan's Law/I-921

For Immediate Release
February 27, 2006

PLEASE SUPPORT DYLAN'S LAW
CITIZENS FOR A ONE STRIKE LAW P.O. BOX 192 SKYKOMISH, WA 98288 877.745.9592

Let's not say we're doing it for the children--let's really do it for the children!



Dear Dylan's Law Supporter,

Please spend three seconds reading a small message from the Groene Family:

One Strike Law open house Feb. 28 at 6 pm.
 
"The Groene family feels very strongly that sex offenses against our nation's youth are reaching an epidemic level.  It is up to each citizen to work together to bring about  changes in our legal system that will keep these predators far away from our children.  That is why we feel Dylan's Law is imperative to saving lives and give it our full support.
 
Please join our family and other concerned citizens at the Burien Public Library, Feb 28 from 6-8pm for more information on Initiative 921 and what we can do as a community to ensure the safety of every child," states Wendy Price, the aunt of Dylan Groene.

Please join us in this fight to keep violent sex predators in prison for life.

If anyone deserves a second chance it is a child not a predator!

Burien Library
6-8 pm
14700 6th Ave SW
Burien
www.mapquest.com

Thank you,

Tracy Oetting
Founder of Citizens for a One Strike Law
P.O. Box 192
Skykomish, WA 98288
onestrikelaw.org
onestrike@seanet.com
360.677.2829- home
206.371.4076- cell

Please support Dylan's Law!

Ban child victim testimony in sex abuse cases!

A mandatory minimum bill for 25 years for first degree child rape has just passed the Washington house and senate, and the governor is expected to sign it. However, it includes such a large exception and loophole that Schwarzenegger's hummer could drive though it. The 25 year minimum excludes any convict where the sex convict is known to the victim. This law and its exception were featured on O'’Reilly Factor and Bill was scratching his head about this exception, as many of us are.

The rationalization behind this exception is that the child victim would never testify against his family member if the victim was informed that his testimony would cause his abuser to receive a very long or life sentence. Tracy has written an excellent post on this blog, analyzing a likely scenario where this situation would likely occur, and under what circumstances.
Upon examination we find that if the evidence is strong and the prosecutor has been diligent in gathering this evidence, then he would have no need to further burden the child victim by requiring any testimony from him. As Tracy points out. "“If the prosecutors and cops have gathered their evidence and have done their job then they don't need that kid to testify and even if the kid does testify, the testimony will either uphold the evidence or it won't!"

If any case absolutely depends upon such child victim testimony, then either the available evidence is too weak to convict without such testimony, or the prosecutor is lazy and/or incompetent. This is a situation where the accused is most likely to be innocent because there is so little evidence, and the prosecution is tempted to plea bargain to avoid a trial. But without a trial, there is no true justice. It becomes a mere negotiated settlement between the accused and the prosecutor, and completely violates the principle of being presumed innocent until proven guilty. It casts aside both the truth and facts as irrelevant as to whether the accused is innocent or guilty. Either the accused receives too lenient a sentence if he is guilty, or he gets an unjust sentence if he is innocent.

Another grievous miscarriage of justice can and has frequently occurred where the child is coached to testify against an accused person for the purpose of justifying more tax revenue budgeting for Child Protective Services. This situation actually occurred in Wenatchee, Washington in 1992 -1995, also known as the Wenatchee Witch Hunt. There was not a shred of hard evidence to support any of these false allegations against these innocent people, but there was plenty of coerced and manipulated child testimony.

This created one of the most wicked injustices ever perpetrated against innocent defenseless citizens who were unable to fight back against this monster Wenatchee Detective Perez and his CPS accomplices, who should also be put away for a life sentence for their crimes of fraud, extortion, witness tampering, perjury, conspiracy, racketeering, kidnapping, false arrest with no warrant or probable cause, and false imprisonment against the innocent; not to mention several counts of constitutional violations. Their crimes are just as serious as the known false charges that they brought against the innocent, and they should face the same sentence for these false charges that they sought to bring against these innocents. They have yet to face a criminal trial and the appropriate sentence for their crimes.

What I am proposing here is a change in judicial codes and statutes that would ban the use of any child ( age 12 or under ) victim testimony as admissible evidence. What would this do?

1. It would prevent the Wenatchee Witch Hunt scenario from ever happening again.

2. The sex offender bureaucrats, lawyers and detectives could never use or manipulate the child victim as a pawn for testimony, and thus would greatly reduce the frequency of plea bargains, most of which occur solely because of child witness testimony.

3. These same sex offender profiteers could never argue for a "“friends and family discount"” exclusion from any mandatory minimum or life sentence, and it would thereby remove this ridiculous excuse for light sentencing of family members under Special Sex Offender Sentencing Alternatives aka SSOSA. Any given case would more likely either go to trial or be dropped entirely.

4. Another effect of this change is that it would increase support for a one strike law among citizens that are justifiably concerned about false accusations from overzealous prosecutors using coached child witnesses and rushing to judgment. Because of those very real fears many do not support a one strike law, and the elimination of this great source of prosecutorial abuse would assure these citizens of the essential justice and necessary protection of a one strike law, and cause them to support it.

There are probably many other points that could be presented to support this proposal, and there may be some points against it that would need to be considered. Let me know what your thoughts are, and any other questions or scenarios that should be considered regarding this proposal.

Robin Hood

We don't use the "C" word young lady. It's offensive to educated women!

What are you so upset about? We're only annoucing your wedding plans to Mr. Duncan! What are you ashamed of? The fact we think your a nut case or are you upset we spoiled your surprize?

DUNCAN IS GETTING MARRIED!

I received this email from Jxxxxx Feb. 9th. I guess we're being mean to her future hubby. I know one thing for sure, the marriage will last about 15 years and then there will be a short goodbye! Unless we have a revolution and start hangin' the bastards!

BTW, Brad Maskell, the lead detective working on the Groene case called Jean Reed, CFAOSL Vancouver Area coordinator, today. Mr. Maskell said, “Duncan received a petition today called “Dylan’s Law” and Brad had the privilege of hand delivering it to Duncan. Mr. Maskell said, “it was the finest piece of mail yet.”

Murderer of Dylan Groene writes to CFAOSL!

Dear Jean,

"Without forgiveness there is only insanity."

I hope that you are not too dismayed to receive letters from me. Normally I would not reply to such a rage filled letters, but I honestly saw genuine pain behind your words and I felt you at least deserved some kind of answer.
You are completely right, "no one has the right to play god", but sadly that is exactly what I was trying to do by condemning society for being "evil and inhuman." But god himself appeared between me and Shasta and commanded me to take her home immediately! So, I did. I don't know why he did not appear to me sooner, you'll have to take that question up with god, (and he can answer, if given a chance.)
But, since I surrendered to the authorities of this world God has been speaking with me everyday. (No, I'm not crazy and I'm not "hearing voices" or anything like that.) I know it is God talking to me though, because not even the devil himself could have made me turn myself over to my most feared and hated enemy ("the system"). It was god God himself who asked me to write you and at least try to let you know that his forgiveness is for everyone! If salvation were only for the righteous (or mostly righteous) then it would not be salvation! There is one simple message that God just asked me to convey to you (apparently he thinks you'll understand): God's power is his forgiveness, if he cant forgive me then he is weak and not God at all! Is that what you really believe?
I realize, of course, that you are hurt and angry, and that was the only reason you said such things to try to hurt me back. And to be honest, it does hurt, more than you know. My own anger, pain and confusion over what happened is more than anyone's (except possibly ! the families, of course). So I know how you probably feel. So, I'm glad that you wrote to me so I could know how you feel. Right now how other people feel is much more important to me than my own feelings.
But, as a society, we need to focus on the future "Dylan's",the ones who also deserve nothing but the best in life, before they too loose it to some hate filled person who wants to "play god" by judging those around him instead of taking responsibility for their own feelings! The question should not be "WHY, WHY?" But rather "how can I help stop this from happening again"?
Jean, I know you are hurt. But killing me will not kill the sickness that is in the world that causes this to happen. You are not really angry at me, you are angry at the sickness that I represent in your mind. But God is glorious and all power full God, and if you have faith in him he will lead you to the understanding ! you need. To see me as a human, and to see the "evil" for what it is too. (And maybe putting it to death, not each other).
If dying, even going to hell, could erase what has happened then I would volunteer in a moment. But it cant, so even though dying at this point in my life would be easier than facing what I have done. I must face it (God says so) to give the world a chance to understand, and hopefully grow, so that the next time a man like myself comes into the world (and there are certainly many already here, just waiting repetitiously for their own anger to surface) then maybe as a society we can reach out to them, exactly as I'm reaching out to you now and say, "I am sorry, please forgive me". Not for my sake, but for all of our sakes, and for the children's sake!"
Our fear and hatred is the sickness and there is no "good hatred." If you continue to hate me, and even kill me, then you send a message to other "s! ex offenders" in this country. I HATE YOU! And I wish you were DEAD! You need to honestly ask yourself how that message will affect them the next time they see a vulnerable person who represents to them exactly what I represent to you!
So, should we just "kill them all?" Jean, look where this is leading. I sense that you are a far better person then that or you wouldn't have even given me a chance to feel your pain and anger by taking time to write.
I hope and pray to God that this letter helps, even if in the smallest way, to alleviate your pain. It is so important to me that people understand Gods presence and power in all that happens. He has a plan for all of us that are literally beyond your imagination, and if you simply obey his greatest command, "to love him" then he will show you his plan too. (You don't ever even need a bible, but it can help.) Just open your heart to God. A good way to start is to o! pen your heart to someone you hate (not necessarily me). (sad face added) These are the kind of things God has been telling me about. I hope they help you understand, so you can help us all heal, and stop the insanity!
Take care, trust God, love him, please. Duncan.